This began with an email containing a link to Obama's site "Time to set the record straight." {Here's the link if you care to look, I find the title rather amusing, however the "getting the Record Straight is not something Mr Obama is capable of. Link:http://www.barackobama.com/images/email/20090814_SettingTheRecordStraight.jpg}
So this managed to get forwarded to someone who had little tolerance for receiving such and email and voiced his opinion against this site. Bravo...another who refuses to go softly into that good night.
This stirred a reaction by a diehard Obama supporter who replied, and I shall paraphrase,
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What I believe...please take time to read it, if just to have another point of view.
People who are bringing guns to town hall meetings are creating a true disaster for our country.
I am not sure why so many untruths are being spread.
Know that top insurance executives received as much as $11 million average each last year in salary.
While this may seem to be part of capitalism, our rates continue to climb, though we file no claims.
This chance for {government} competition is good. If we had only one telephone company like we used to, we would not enjoy the low price of long distance, the free internet, and many more of the things we take for granted since the Bell telephone monopoly was broken up, due, yes, to the intervention of the government.
Greed is controlling health care in the U.S. at this time. We spend twice the money on health care than any other country, yet are 34th in quality of care.
Thank you for having an open mind.
I do not like arguments like this, but since before the election I have felt amazed that the hatred for Obama is driving so many to a point of view that is increasingly violent and divisive for our country.
It comes across as racism, though I am sure that is not the case for many people, but is is something to look at.
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No doubt, this invoked a response. ;)
Here it is...
The key to these issues is not to 'believe' but to read the bills in question and seek out the exact verbiage being said by the person in question. Not by sighting pro-Obama sites as evidence of validity. As you will see, there is a lot of misrepresentation at the citizens of the US’s expense.
Consider the man carrying the assault rifle, while it may be extreme for most of us, it is a 2nd amendment right and does not become conditional because we may not like it. He did everything within the law and performed this act in the first place as protest against Obama's views on guns.
It is also key to note...this was a Black Man carrying the gun, much as the media would like you to believe the incident was racially driven.
Link: http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2009/20090818040310.aspx
In 2007, Obama stated the following at an SEIU meeting (Interestingly enough has been scrubbed from YouTube as of today, but Paul still has copies).
"I’m asking that you get engaged, that you get involved...But here’s the thing you need to understand, when you give into the cynicism like that, the people who believe politics is a game always win. That’s what they are counting on, they are counting on you being so disappointed, so disillusioned, that you lose your own voice. That you start doubting yourself, that you start believing…’You know what? Change is never going to happen in this country and that I don’t count.’”
Well this is the exact play book that is being implemented by the ruling majority right now.
What used to be accepted protest during the Bush administration has now become 'unacceptable' by those who used to do this...ie the ruling majority in Congress. They refuse to acknowledge 63% of the public is against the Healthcare plan.
Instead, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Arlen Specter, Barbara Boxer, and Barney Frank - to name a few – pride themselves in calling these protesters Evil Mongers, Racists, Nazi's, Un-American, Republicans, Astroturf (AKA shills for the Drug and Insurance Companies which is interesting considering Obama has made deals with them to get them to go along with the bill Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/13/internal-memo-confirms-bi_n_258285.html ), and the most offensive ‘Well Dressed’. These folks are Democrats and Independents, and Republicans. These folks are accused of the violent tactics, which are, curiously enough, employed by the Obama Administration, utilizing SEIU and ACORN members to beat up anyone who protests.
Links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXl4yn_W1tE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGRUx2b0ArM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJoLftlARf8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Mdxa-cKyk&feature=related
http://lonestartimes.com/2009/08/13/obama-camp-plants-fake-doc-che-fan-at-jackson-lee-forum/
Then we have Rep's like Erik Massa who thumb their nose up at democracy by refusing to heed the interests of the district he represents, stating he knows better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_ID7hYzk44
It is interesting that the President as well as various media outlets purport the ‘Truth behind the Healthcare myths’. Anyone who has been following closely knows there are at least two bills floating around, if not more. Also that they are carefully worded as to allow wiggle room of claiming ‘that’s not what that means’.
Consider the statement: I will meet you when it gets dark out. If I went out at 8pm and didn't see you, then ask why you weren’t there. You answer, “well I wasn’t talking about nighttime; I meant when the storm clouds roll in.”
Anyone who reads what is available online, in HR 3200, will clearly see this.
The current version available states the government will have access to not only your records, but you personal bank account and will automatically debit that account as they see fit to ensure payment. Page 57.
Page 469 states that there will be focus on bolstering up the medical services though minorities will be favored for these positions over whites (ie not based on aptitude or intelligence).
On Page 29 – Explains how health care will be rationed.
On Page 50 – How the elderly will compete against illegal aliens for healthcare.
The truth is Obama doesn’t know what is in the bill. In fact, you can hear him laugh as a question is being asked by one of the Liberal Bloggers during a conference.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVjc9mopH58&feature=PlayList&p=832A1761E7FE9DD2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10
Given that, we must then resort to what Obama’s plan has been up till now, as he can’t be pinned down to anything specific. Therefore we must turn to his speeches since 2003, all of which clearly state over and over and over, he wants to abolish private health care and fund abortions with the plan.
Here are just a couple of examples.
Links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9CCpvj690A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtjJ1CKkDOQ
The current talk this week is how government will offer competition. There is competition already and to believe adding a government plan will provide that is ludicrous. What the government will do is mandate price cuts to a level which will kill off the insurance companies. They will also institute lower than market premiums which will do the same thing. To promote single payer as the way out demonstrates a lack of understanding in the economics behinds health care and what the problems actually are. The following link has some perspectives that aren’t discussed:
http://primemover-2010.blogspot.com/2009/08/observations-on-health-care-costs.html
Then consider the fact that there are not enough physicians today in the US and enrollment in Medical school is down 60%. If there are those experiencing wait times, it will not get any better adding 46 million to the pool. Link: http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/20/pho.doctor.shortage/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
To sight someone’s salary as a reason to attack the industry is playing into the policy of ‘class warfare’ Obama has instituted. One should not covet someone’s wealth, instead, they should focus on what they need to do to reach their desired level of financial comfort.
If one is going to mention how much is spent on health care in comparing countries, don’t look at the overall cost, it must be in terms of per capita. The fact is there is a difference between medical care and health care. The US is #1 in medical care. We also have the lowest wait times. John Stossel did an informative series on HC, here’ are the links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEXFUbSbg1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsEAVbCkMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refrYKq9tZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhiG0dcwN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsp_Jh5EIT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_KCLm9cekU
Then there’s Obama’s budget which will produce a $1.7 trillion deficit or bringing it down to a number we can grasp, $53,906.64 a second.
Our interest is $26 Million per month – Enough to fund the CDC, Coast Guard, and Dept of Interior for 1 year.
The annual interest payments of $300 million could fund the Dept of Commerce, Education, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Dev, Energy, Justice, and Labor.
By 2019, those interest payments will have accrued to $806 billion a year - enough to fund the Dept of Def, Dept of Trans., Veterans Affairs, and the State Dept.
Before we can solve the ills of the US , we need to solve the ills of government.
P.S. You may find the following links interesting.
{Information on Sweden and France concerning Cost and Wait Times of their healthcare systems}
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA555_Sweden_Health_Care.html
http://www..brookings.edu/f p/cusf/analysis/dutton.pdf
{Warnings from US Comptroller General David Walker 2.5 years ago concerning the economic crisis}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgrxpp97OQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXr_Ga_n0pY&feature=related
{The cost of creating a new prescription drug}
http://www.ipi.org/ipi/IPIPublications.nsf/PublicationLookupFullText/EBE39D9EF34EF6ED86256C1E005AA323
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/76xx/doc7615/10-02-DrugR-D..pdf
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